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 11 
 on: December 04, 2018, 06:21:50 PM 
Started by Robb_K - Last post by bklynmike101
Joe,

Agree completely - nothing like the enthusiasm of youth when first discovering a sport (likely other things as well). For me, it was baseball first mid-way through the '59 season (age 7) ; grainy B&W Yankee telecasts with Mel Allen, Phil Rizutto, and Red Barber, followed by the '59 WS between the Larry Sherry/Chuck Essegian Dodgers and your Nellie Fox/Big Klu Chisox. NBA and NFL interest followed shortly thereafter (circa '60-'61) but NHL came much later - Marv Albert and Win Elliot. I can still sing the Shaeffer, Rheingold, and Ballantine songs by heart. Enjoyed your tales of the earlier NYR and later D.C. Caps.

If Fox struck out  as many as 20 times in a year (which he NEVER did despite 600+ AB's), he'd have been beside himself. Talk about ability to "handle the bat"!

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 on: December 04, 2018, 01:57:25 PM 
Started by Robb_K - Last post by JoeC
Loved all 'dem guys when I first discovered hockey circa 1965 (the last of the big 4 sports that I "adopted"). Red Sullivan a little before my time. But Bathgate, Camille (in his 2nd iteration), were known and followed. The only guy I remember having a particular distaste for was one Larry Jeffrey. Jeffrey was one of the first to don a helmet, and was a non-scoring forward (pointless no?). We were not kind to him whenever he appeared on the ice at MSG, though I shant (shant?) repeat what we called him.  Grin

Mike, you and I are 10 years apart in when we started following Rangers' hockey. I started with the 1954-55 season (I had just turned 11 when that season began). By the time you started in 1965, I was well into my college years and long gone from NY. No hockey or much coverage of the NHL in Miami in those days. My "prime years" following the Rangers were 1954-62.  

Since I lived in the DC area, I adopted the Washington Caps when they became an expansion team in the early 70s. Still always rooted for the Rangers except when playing the Caps. And, I must say, my passion for the Rangers in that 1954-62 period was never equaled by any similar passion for the Caps. I'm sure that has to do with the age I was at the time. Just like my 1950s/early 60s Yankee heroes (and other MLB heroes like Nellie Fox) was not the same with later players/teams. Something magic about youth and heroes.
 

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 on: December 04, 2018, 12:25:05 PM 
Started by Robb_K - Last post by bklynmike101
Loved all 'dem guys when I first discovered hockey circa 1965 (the last of the big 4 sports that I "adopted"). Red Sullivan a little before my time. But Bathgate, Camille (in his 2nd iteration), were known and followed. The only guy I remember having a particular distaste for was one Larry Jeffrey. Jeffrey was one of the first to don a helmet, and was a non-scoring forward (pointless no?). We were not kind to him whenever he appeared on the ice at MSG, though I shant (shant?) repeat what we called him.  Grin

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 on: December 03, 2018, 12:56:24 PM 
Started by Robb_K - Last post by JoeC
Vic Hadfield just had his jersey "retired" by the NYR. Reminded me of "my guys" - the likes of Goyette-Hadfield-Nevin-Ratelle-Gilbert-Ingarfield-Howell-Brown-Seling-Nilsson.

Vic was one of my favorites. By rights, he shoulda been a Chicago Black Hawk as he came up totally in their system. Rangers claimed him when left unprotected by Chicago. He became the NYR Captain after Bob Nevin. Camille Henry wore the C before Nevin, and Bathgate, Red Sullivan and Harry Howell before him.

Red was another of my favorite Rangers. Like Hadfield, he had Chicago roots. Almost killed when Doug Harvey speared him.

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 on: December 03, 2018, 12:15:21 PM 
Started by Robb_K - Last post by bklynmike101
Vic Hadfield just had his jersey "retired" by the NYR. Reminded me of "my guys" - the likes of Goyette-Hadfield-Nevin-Ratelle-Gilbert-Ingarfield-Howell-Brown-Seling-Nilsson.

 16 
 on: December 03, 2018, 09:26:57 AM 
Started by Robb_K - Last post by JoeC
Random rhetorical questions/comments and a trivia question thrown in:

- Worst goalie of all time? Michel Belhumeur who played 35 games in net for the expansion Washington Caps (I saw most of them) without recording a single win.

- Is Bobby Carpenter the most "hyped" (huge publicity before ever playing an NHL game) American-born player ever?

   - Bobby was the second American-born player drafted in the 1st Round of the NHL draft. Who was the first?
   - Scored 320 goals in his career (172 in his first 5 seasons, averaging 34+ a season). Scored 53 goals in '85; then, his career fizzled. Anyone have any idea why? Had a prickly personality but so did other players who, unlike Carpenter, are in the NHL HoF.
    
- You know how in baseball, "they" always say superstar players don't make good managers. That true in hockey? Other than Toe Blake, are there other exceptions of HoF players becoming hugely successful coaches too?

- As for short goalies, in the 8th grade I was 5'7. That year, I once stood next to Gump Worsley on the street outside the old Madison Square Garden on 8th and 49th, waiting for the light to change. Without his skates on, we were the exact same height. He had me by 50 pounds though.


 17 
 on: December 03, 2018, 01:33:33 AM 
Started by Robb_K - Last post by Robb_K

Robb, were there other tall goaltenders before Dryden? My recollection is they were generally short, quick-reflex guys.
Youare correct.  Most goaltenders in the old days were short and very athletic.  I remember pictures of Lorne Chabot, who looked tall.  But, he was only 6ft1.  But most hockey players back in those days went from 5ft5 to 5ft11, and most goalies were 5ft9 and down.  The only tall goalie I can remember from the 1950s was Al Rollins.  But he was only 6ft2.  From modern times I only remember Cesare Maniago, John Davidson, and Olie Kolzig (all 6ft3), and Mike Liut, and Sean Burke - I think he was 6ft4.

 18 
 on: December 03, 2018, 12:55:48 AM 
Started by Robb_K - Last post by Robb_K
Robb-not sure if i answered  your comment about NY  not being a hockey town--I strongly  disagree.Where else  in the world  do THREE  pro hockey teams play within  30  miles  [now  just 10]  Islanders,Rangers & Devils?
Hell, Canada  couldn't  even  support Montreal & Nordiques.
Forget where  Winnipeg Jets  moved  to?
When did I say that "New York isn't a hockey town"Huh  I don't remember EVER saying or writing that.  I DO remember writing that i know next to nothing about US college hockey, and what I DO know is all about The WCHA (Western Collegiate Hockey Association).  THAT is because I lived in The Midwest (southern Manitoba and Chicago)(very close to Minnesota and North Dakota, and also to Michigan and Wisconsin).  That wasn't because I look down on Eastern US collegiate hockey.  The New England and New York schools win The frozen Four tournament about half the time.  I don't remember EVER commenting on this forum about whether or not New York is a hockey town.  Montreal supported The Canadiens and Maroons for many years, and also supported The Junior Canadiens, whose tickets cost as much as pro league tickets.  The New York Metro Area had 1more than 10 times the population of Metro Montreal.  So, I don't think that is a fair comparison.  Quebec is quite a distance from Montreal.  In any case, I never stated or meant to imply that people in The New York Metro Area wouldn't pay to see pro hockey games.  Not sure where you got that idea.  College hockey is not a scholarship sport in Canada.  So all the best college age hockey players in Canada who want to further their hockey careers, but also want to attend university at the same time, get scholarships to US colleges. Being a Midwesterner, most of the people I knew or watched growing up, who played US hockey, played on WCHA teams.  And, I could also watch that league's games in Winnipeg and Chicago.  But, I was only interested in US college hockey when its teams had one or more players on it that had already been drafted by one of my favourite NHL teams (Jets, Blackhawks, Blues), OR it had a player who I knew from Winnipeg.

 19 
 on: December 03, 2018, 12:26:48 AM 
Started by Robb_K - Last post by bklynmike101
The name and team escapes me but the other day I read about a new NHL goalie who stands 6'7". Good gracious!

Mikko Koskinen - Edmonton Oilers Goalie - officially listed at a mere 6' 6".

 20 
 on: December 02, 2018, 02:51:05 PM 
Started by Robb_K - Last post by doctordoowop
I  had to  cheat & look  it up.    Jets moved to  Phoenix & then  Thrashers  became the  new W. Jets

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