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 91 
 on: February 03, 2018, 12:55:05 PM 
Started by Robb_K - Last post by JoeC
Doctor, from what I've read, Houston is the #1 city for NHL expansion. You'd think Seattle, if serious, is large enough to build new arena. Think QC lost Nordiques because the market was just too small?
Quebec lost The Nordiques mostly because The Canadian Dollar collapsed vs. The US Dollar.  The Winnipeg Jets also lost their franchise then, for the same reason.  The new Jets are doing fine now.  So, I believe that Quebec will return to The NHL.  They ARE a very small market, but I believe they can support an NHL team - just as Hamilton can, and Saskatoon, Regina and probably Halifax can (despite having small population bases), because such a high % of their metro populations would be ardent fans.  The Toronto and Montreal metro areas could each likely support 4 NHL teams.

I think Seattle will get the next expansion team, by 2020.

Las Vegas got a much better deal, player acquisition-wise, getting 3 1st Round of the Junior Draft, plus having had the existing teams allowed to protect significantly less players than in all previous expansion drafts.  The bad part for Las Vegas haters (like me), who don't want desert teams and tropical city teams in The NHL, is that The Golden Knights will likely have success for many years to come, as they have traded off excess current NHL ready talent, they outbid other teams to procure and signed as free agents, for relatively high future draft choices.  They own more young talented future NHL prospects than any other NHL team.  This whole expansion to Las Vegas is disgusting. 

Robb, About Vegas, I agree with you. Bet most of the tourists (be interesting to know what % of the crowd they make up), don't know even the most basic things about the game. Just an "event" to them. Sorta cheapens the product. I know the Caps hated having to give up D Nate Schmidt (former Minnesota Golden Gopher), a rising star.

 92 
 on: February 03, 2018, 12:53:01 PM 
Started by Robb_K - Last post by Robb_K
Seattle--prob w/arena  -why Sonics  left. Too  close to  Vancouver?
Houston-sure-supported  Aeros.
QCity--not sure-why did  Nordiques  leave.Too close to   Montreal?   

Seattle will be an excellent market for an NHL team, as a natural rival to Vancouver.  They used to have a rival league to The NHL, with a Seattle team, who played annually against The NHL, for The Stanley Cup.  Seattle has had a team in Canada's Major Junior, Western Hockey League for over half a century, so that city is used to a high level of hockey.  Their Western Hockey League (pro league on AHL level from 1950s through 2000s) has always drawn well.  They should be very successful, and are already slated to be the next NHL franchise, playing in a refurbished Key Arena, temporarily, until a new arena is built.

 93 
 on: February 03, 2018, 12:44:50 PM 
Started by Robb_K - Last post by Robb_K
Doctor, from what I've read, Houston is the #1 city for NHL expansion. You'd think Seattle, if serious, is large enough to build new arena. Think QC lost Nordiques because the market was just too small?
Quebec lost The Nordiques mostly because The Canadian Dollar collapsed vs. The US Dollar.  The Winnipeg Jets also lost their franchise then, for the same reason.  The new Jets are doing fine now.  So, I believe that Quebec will return to The NHL.  They ARE a very small market, but I believe they can support an NHL team - just as Hamilton can, and Saskatoon, Regina and probably Halifax can (despite having small population bases), because such a high % of their metro populations would be ardent fans.  The Toronto and Montreal metro areas could each likely support 4 NHL teams.

I think Seattle will get the next expansion team, by 2020.

Las Vegas got a much better deal, player acquisition-wise, getting 3 1st Round of the Junior Draft, plus having had the existing teams allowed to protect significantly less players than in all previous expansion drafts.  The bad part for Las Vegas haters (like me), who don't want desert teams and tropical city teams in The NHL, is that The Golden Knights will likely have success for many years to come, as they have traded off excess current NHL ready talent, they outbid other teams to procure and signed as free agents, for relatively high future draft choices.  They own more young talented future NHL prospects than any other NHL team.  This whole expansion to Las Vegas is disgusting. 

 94 
 on: February 03, 2018, 08:29:20 AM 
Started by Robb_K - Last post by JoeC
Doctor, from what I've read, Houston is the #1 city for NHL expansion. You'd think Seattle, if serious, is large enough to build new arena. Think QC lost Nordiques because the market was just too small?


 95 
 on: February 02, 2018, 11:06:01 PM 
Started by Robb_K - Last post by doctordoowop
Seattle--prob w/arena  -why Sonics  left. Too  close to  Vancouver?

Houston-sure-supported  Aeros.

QCity--not sure-why did  Nordiques  leave.Too close to   Montreal?   


 96 
 on: February 02, 2018, 08:29:35 PM 
Started by Robb_K - Last post by JoeC
Anyone have any thoughts about the NHL's likely expansion into three more cities -- Seattle, Houston, and a return to Quebec City?

 97 
 on: February 02, 2018, 08:08:30 PM 
Started by Robb_K - Last post by doctordoowop
I  had to  check Joe-I was right--their  home  record is  about .900,road is about  .600.The NHL guys do  party.Even their  chauffeurs--recall  Red Wings?

 98 
 on: February 02, 2018, 05:23:23 PM 
Started by Robb_K - Last post by JoeC
That must be the case, Doctor (not being able to protect as many players). Still, Vegas GKs are amazing! In the Capitals, KC Scouts, Califiornia Golden Seals days, the NHL raped the new teams financially, then ensured they'd never contend for a decade or more.

 99 
 on: February 02, 2018, 04:16:18 PM 
Started by Robb_K - Last post by doctordoowop
Road  teams in Vegas  get no  sleep. Grin Grin Grin

Seriously  how do  home/road records compare?

Think teams cant protect as many as  they   once could.

 100 
 on: February 02, 2018, 02:49:16 PM 
Started by Robb_K - Last post by JoeC
Las Vegas Golden Knights were 500-1 to win Stanley Cup in pre-season. Now, odds are down to 8-1. How can an inaugural team be this good?

I recall when my adopted Capitals came into the league in 1974-75 as an expansion team. They went 8-67-5, with only one road win (their opener). They lost four games by 10 or more goals! 15 players with -40 or worse (one was -82). Didn't have a winning season until their 9th year in existence. 

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