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« on: April 27, 2017, 09:13:54 AM »

Got a trivia category for everything else ...

1. Bonus Baby rule -- in effect from 1947-57. Any player who initially signed for $4,000 or more could not be "farmed out." That's roughly $40,000 in today's dollars. Reason for the rule was to prevent "hoarding" by richer clubs and, of course, to keep bonus amounts low.

2.Yanks played 22 doubleheaders in 1950. Berra caught both games in every one of them (even when, in one case, first game went 15 innings). Poor Charlie Silvera.

3. In 1950, Berra struck out -- get this -- 12 times in 656 ABs. Why can't players do that today?

4. Joe D and Stengel rarely spoke in the two years they were together. Communicated through GM George Weiss or one of the owners.

5. Phillies were purchased in 1943 for $80,000 (a bit over one million dollars in today's money). Think about that compared to the sale of the Dodgers for $2 Billion or the Marlins sale to Bush-Jeter for $1.3 Billion!
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« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2017, 01:35:00 PM »

Todays  teams don't  care about  k's.   

Think JoeD  had around 370 HRs   and  about  360 K's.  Amazing.
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« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2017, 04:31:33 PM »

Some of the "Bonus Babies from that 1947-57 era. Some HoFers (Koufax, Kaline and Killebrew); some really nice players (Antonelli, C Boyer, O'Dell, and Groat), a few average Joes, and many busts.

Johnny Antonelli
Joey Amalfitano
Reno Bertoia
Steve Boros
Clete Boyer
Tommy Carroll
Wayne Causey
Billy Consolo
Moe Drabowsky
Paul Giel
Dick Groat
Joey Jay
Al Kaline
Harmon Killebrew
Sandy Koufax
Frank Leja
Lindy McDaniel
Von McDaniel
Eddie & Johnny O'Brien
Billy O'Dell
Jerry Walker


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« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2017, 07:02:45 PM »

No DH now, just  day nites.  Teams want all  162 dates.  Wait  3 hrs if raining--and no games called bc of "wet grounds."

Occ postponed bc of lightning. Recall Rizutto   got struck of top  of cap.  Always afraidof thunder.

As u know  then  DHs every Sunday  & Mem Day, July 4th & Labor Day.   Plus tomake up rainouts. 

I liked Twilite-  Night  DHs--started  about 5PM.

Saw  1st DH at Dodger Stadium--1967--to  make up for 1st rainout in 10 yrs.   LA-Cards.



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« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2017, 08:06:07 AM »

Somewhere, I thought I'd heard LA had never had a rainout but I go with your first hand account. Sounds good for tourism and the SoCal image to say that though. 

Given that he swung at a ton of "bad balls," I'm still trying to wrap my head around Yogi's 12 K's in over 650 AB. Musta had the greatest eye-hand coordination ever.
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« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2017, 01:08:33 PM »

Been 6-7  in  55yrs. 

But 1st was in spring of  67. That may have caused the only DH   at Dodger stadium.   

Yogi swung at bad balls, but  HIT them.


In 41  wen Ted hit  .406   a sac fly was an out.   Not  sure how many points that cost him-- 6or 7 at least.
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« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2017, 01:37:33 PM »

Been 6-7  in  55yrs.  

But 1st was in spring of  67. That may have caused the only DH   at Dodger stadium.  

Yogi swung at bad balls, but  HIT them.


In 41  wen Ted hit  .406   a sac fly was an out.   Not  sure how many points that cost him-- 6or 7 at least.

Definitely cost him points. Did not know that.

Also, didn't realize the players' practice of leaving their gloves on the field after a defensive half inning continued through the 1953 season. Thought that was an "early days" thing. Corner infielders left their gloves in foul ground but CF and middle infielders left theirs on the grass. And read that widespread use of batting helmets didn't happen until 1955. And, even then, many just wore a helmet "liner," not the helmut we know today.

Read an article about Casey Stengel. He married a well-to-do woman from Glendale (heiress to some banking wealth). Inherited his in-laws home, a very nice Spanish/Moorish place (4800 sq ft) at the base of the San Gabriel Mountains (northeast from where the 134 and 5 intersect). On his own, he invested in oil wells in Okla and Ark with a good number that "came in." Plus made good money managing the Yanks. Lived in the Essex House on Central Park South during season, with his wife. When he died ('75), quick trip to Forest Lawn. Already lived in the general neighborhood.
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« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2017, 07:55:01 PM »

In NY Mets inaugural season (1962), they drew 12,447 to their home opener at the Polo Grounds and, if you subtract  big crowds when the Dodgers and Giants  visited, they averaged only a little over 9,000 per home game. Hardly says that NYC was thirsting for NL baseball.
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« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2017, 10:48:27 PM »

Was  at  Mem day  DH  in 62--Mets v dodgers.  Think  Koufax & Drysdale  pitched.

Love Casey's line in 55  "  They  finally  get me  a n----r  and he  cant run."   Elston Howard.

His  record  was sick---  won 49,50 51, 52  and  53. FIVE in a row.

talking to  older  Dodgers--Branca, Loes,  Erskine, Roe,Duke--They  all  agreed the   53  Dodgers were the  best. Member Mantle  was  hurt  in 55-did he play at all?
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« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2017, 07:53:01 AM »

Yeah, Mickey played. Don't know how many games but I do recall him hitting a homer off Johnny Podres in one of the early games.

The way the Yanks let Rizzuto go was classic. GM Weiss called him to his office and said, "We have a chance to get Eddie Robinson, who do you think we ought to drop off the roster?"  Phil was flattered; thought he was being consulted as a team "elder" so he threw a couple guys under the bus. Then ... he realizes it's HIM!
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« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2017, 12:25:38 PM »

MM played--but mostly Cerv I think.    Had Leja  and  Carroll Yankee  BB cards--but they  never played.

That 62 DH  with Dodgers was SRO!
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« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2017, 01:01:38 PM »

MM played--but mostly Cerv I think.    Had Leja  and  Carroll Yankee  BB cards--but they  never played.

That 62 DH  with Dodgers was SRO!

Am sure it was. As I said, though, other than Giants and Dodgers they didn't draw flies in the three years at the Polo Grounds. Once they moved to Queens... different story. Didn't hurt that World's Fair opened in '64 too.

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« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2017, 06:17:10 PM »

Trivia Question:

Anthony Rendon went 6-6, 3 HR and 10 RBI in today's game against the Mets.

Name the three other players to go 6-for-6 with 3 HRs in a single game?

Clue: One did it for the Dodgers in 2002, one for the Mets in 1999, and one for Tigers in 1925.
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« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2017, 06:52:02 PM »

Piazza, Cobb  and  ?
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« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2017, 08:24:14 PM »

Cobb is correct (I didn't think he hit many HRs). Wonder if they were all inside-the-park jobs? Wasn't he sort of a slap hitter?

Being an Angeleno, can't let you off the hook yet on the 2002 Dodger. Not Piazza. Another clue: An outfielder.

The '99 Met is pretty impossible. Their 2B that year who hit over .300, 27 HR and drove in 108. Latino. I never hear his name anymore.

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« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2017, 08:41:41 PM »

Green?   

99-Met  no  clue.

Like how Lombardi got  rid of Jim Ringo.  Jim  said he had an agent-Vin called him and told Ringo--"Talk to the Eagles. You are not  here anymore."
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« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2017, 09:30:43 PM »

Shawn Green was the guy. 6 for 6, 3 of them HRs. Not easy to do. That's always gonna be a career game.

The Met 2B was Edgardo Alfonzo. Mets went to the WS the next year, right? With Piazza?
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« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2017, 10:00:58 PM »

Yes--v Yanks--wen Clemens  threw  bat  at  Mike
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« Reply #18 on: May 01, 2017, 04:37:59 PM »

Cobb is correct (I didn't think he hit many HRs). Wonder if they were all inside-the-park jobs? Wasn't he sort of a slap hitter?

Being an Angeleno, can't let you off the hook yet on the 2002 Dodger. Not Piazza. Another clue: An outfielder.
The '99 Met is pretty impossible. Their 2B that year who hit over .300, 27 HR and drove in 108. Latino. I never hear his name anymore.
Cobb was a slap hitter, but he hit a lot of wicked line drives.  I think he hit 2 or 3 over the fence in short left or right field stadia during the 2 years he hit 12 home runs.  He was fairly high in the list of HR hitters before 1919.  But, yes, most of his home runs were triples he legged into HRs.
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« Reply #19 on: May 01, 2017, 05:05:49 PM »

Cobb is correct (I didn't think he hit many HRs). Wonder if they were all inside-the-park jobs? Wasn't he sort of a slap hitter?

Being an Angeleno, can't let you off the hook yet on the 2002 Dodger. Not Piazza. Another clue: An outfielder.
The '99 Met is pretty impossible. Their 2B that year who hit over .300, 27 HR and drove in 108. Latino. I never hear his name anymore.
Cobb was a slap hitter, but he hit a lot of wicked line drives.  I think he hit 2 or 3 over the fence in short left or right field stadia during the 2 years he hit 12 home runs.  He was fairly high in the list of HR hitters before 1919.  But, yes, most of his home runs were triples he legged into HRs.

1925 was, not surprisingly, one of his two 12 HR years (had 12 triples too). Amazing that 3 of the 12 HRS were in one game! Hit .378 and drove in 102.
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« Reply #20 on: May 01, 2017, 05:24:04 PM »

Mets in Polo for 2 yrs--62 &  63.  Shea opened  with Worlds Fair in 64.

Didn't O'Dell  give up  Wertz  490  foot  out  in 54 WS?
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« Reply #21 on: May 01, 2017, 05:28:14 PM »

Had Amalfitano,  Bertoia , &  Consolo  1955- cards-. Wondered who the hell they were.   Joe and Billy  from LA area.

PS--met  Joe A. in Vero-very nice guy.
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« Reply #22 on: May 01, 2017, 06:07:10 PM »

Mets in Polo for 2 yrs--62 &  63.  Shea opened  with Worlds Fair in 64.

Didn't O'Dell  give up  Wertz  490  foot  out  in 54 WS?

Definitely NOT Billy O'Dell. He started with the Orioles in mid-50s, then pitched a number of years for the Giants, who already were in SF. 

Good trivia question on who did Wertz hit that drive off? Don't have a clue.

Remember how the NY tabloids use to use a dotted line and a picture with tape measure hits/HRs?  I recall that hit getting that treatment the next day and it was measured at 420 feet. The Polo Grounds CF wall was 483 from home plate. 490 woulda definitely put the ball outa there, or at least off the wall!!

Here's a related trivia question. Only 4 players ever homered over the 483 wall. Aaron and Adcock were two. Have no idea who the other two were.
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« Reply #23 on: May 02, 2017, 09:27:38 PM »

Lou  Brock   was  one.   Think v.  Mets.

4th?  Hodges?   Babe  played  there  from  what  20-22  and didn't?

I'll  have to cheat  and look up   the  Wertz  HR.
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« Reply #24 on: May 02, 2017, 09:29:40 PM »

Just in ---Roy Sievers-- RIP  --died April  3.

1st  AL R  of Y  in 49 w/ Browns.

1st  Nat  league  R of  Y?
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« Reply #25 on: May 02, 2017, 09:37:12 PM »

Knew it was  a small  lefty--Don Liddle.
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« Reply #26 on: May 02, 2017, 09:44:00 PM »

Knew it was  a small  lefty--Don Liddle.

Never coulda come up with Liddle's name.

I had to look up the 4th guy to homer over the CF wall at the Polo Grounds. Sort of a trick question in that it turns out it was Luke Easter, while he was playing in the Negro Leagues in 1948. So ... only 3 ML players (altho Easter later became one).
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« Reply #27 on: May 02, 2017, 10:09:54 PM »

Just in ---Roy Sievers-- RIP  --died April  3.

1st  AL R  of Y  in 49 w/ Browns.

1st  Nat  league  R of  Y?
Jackie Robinson - 1947.
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« Reply #28 on: May 02, 2017, 10:30:00 PM »

That's what I thought--at 1st. Then saw  Sievers was 1st AL in 49.  Maybe like  Cy Young--1st  only one winner, then  one from each league.

Was  Jackie  R of Y  and MVP   in 47?

Wat about Newk in 49?
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« Reply #29 on: May 03, 2017, 08:43:03 AM »

Right, first two years there was only one winner, then '49 one for each league.
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