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« on: August 30, 2017, 08:49:58 PM »

Coming up on HBO this fall "The Deuce" , set in 1970s Times Square and featuring porn and sex and nudity and and and ...
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« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2017, 09:51:31 PM »

But  it  wasnt  called  the deuce  until Joe & I  left--80s-90s? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2017, 04:45:38 AM »

Jack - Can I sue?  That's my record label name, lol.

doc - They can be using it to give a more "contemporary" name.  Also "insiders" could have used it before it caught on with the rest of us.
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« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2017, 01:53:27 PM »

Shandy--couldn't agree  more.   I   had  my 1st  raw  clams  at Grant's on 42nd  in the  60s. Half dozen for  90 cents!  Wonder  if Slim was  there? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

DeNiro  in Taxi  Driver  took  his date to  a "theater" on 42nd.  Grin Grin Grin Grin  Think  all gone by  now.
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« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2017, 02:45:06 PM »

doc - Slim practically hung there and Wayne got him his coffee and English muffin there.  I hope you avoided the back.  I hung at Crossroads Cafe (my parents had their wedding breakfast there, different times then), Romeos and Flaming Embers.  Tad's was the pits, but all the guys liked it.  Yeah, like Cybil Sheppard would go into a porn theater with Travis Bickle.  That movie got it ALL wrong.  Now "Mean Streets" was true insider.  Some of the sleaze is still there now, but it's a different kind.  BTW, your post would have gone unnoticed if I used the upper left "Show new replies to your posts."  It registered nothing.
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« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2017, 10:22:56 PM »

Loved  music   in Mean Streets--wasn't there  a scene  when  Keitel and  DeNiro  discussed  Nini/Ebbtides?  Either Oldies  but Goodies, or Jukebox  Sat Nite?
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« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2017, 11:41:29 PM »

I've seen it more times than I can count, first movie I ever bought for my VCR, and I don't remember that, the music wouldn't fit that kind of dialogue, lol.  I do remember a character in the bar saying to a customer "Play all the old ones.
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« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2017, 07:01:02 AM »

Based on my experience touting "Mean Streets" to anyone I could, I have to sadly conclude I think the appeal of the movie is to New Yorkers (maybe urbanites)  and movie buffs. Can't tell you how any people have told me they found "Streets" unwatchable. Crazy world we live in!!
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« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2017, 12:53:06 PM »

Shandy-it was  in a bar/club  standing at a jukebox.   One asked the other  which version of Oldies but Goodies  they like & other answered  Nino/Ebbtides.   Dont think Little Caesar  was  mentioned.

Not a surprise considering Scorsese  named  1st film--college --after  a Genies song.
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« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2017, 01:09:47 PM »

doc - Just don't remember that, but that's what I love about that movie and can watch it as many times as I have, there's always another bit of business that jumps out at you, so I'll keep my ear out for that one.  Yeah, I have "Who's That Knocking", another early purchase, referred to as his NYU film.  Interesting.  "On the Waterfront" ties for first place with "Mean" as my favorite movies, I think it's because they're what I call "niche urban" and not for everyone.  I NEVER thought "Mean" would go anywhere, too insider.
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« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2017, 01:18:36 PM »

Waterfront--fantastic.  Brando, Steiger,  Malden,  Saint,  Cobb---too  much.    Brando  went  downhill  rapidly.   Always thot Godfather  was not that good.
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« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2017, 09:29:29 PM »

doc - Even Herman Munster can be seen in at least two scenes Smiley  The only false note I found in the movie was Malden, though probably not his fault.  He went from "Edie, I'll be in the church if you need me." to "Give me a beer." in about two seconds.  As a child I loved "The Wild One", but once I turned about ten I found it hilariously awful.  Lee Marvin looked about 50 and the soundtrack was absurd.  Recently someone sent me a still from it with much of the cast.  He captioned it "Waiting for their Social Security checks Grin
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« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2017, 09:44:19 PM »

Shandy--the  big guy  that  Ralph Kramden  knocked  out  in Hooneymooners  is  seen on the  docks as well. 

Wild One  was a yr  earlier--but  Streetcar    around  51--"Stella"  --  was  great   --also  Malden   with  Marlon..
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« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2017, 02:38:15 AM »

doc - I know Malden was highly thought of among other actors, I just didn't see much of him.  I don't remember much of "One-Eye Jacks" but remember Maldon was a sheriff and he was woken up and came out in his pajamas.....and badge Grin  Again, not his fault but it's the only thing I remember of that film.  I came to "Streetcar" late and figured it couldn't live up to all the hype, but it did.  I came late to the "Gone With The Wind" party, never read the book and felt it couldn't be as good as they said.  I hated it.  I thought if Leigh (stunning looks) said "fiddle-de-dee" one more time, I'd hurl Tongue
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« Reply #14 on: September 03, 2017, 12:50:24 PM »

My wife's all-time favorite is Gone With The Wind. After many, many attempts, I've now gotten all the way thru it. I suppose certain parts are pretty good but the overall effect is lost on me as some parts are insufferable.
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« Reply #15 on: September 03, 2017, 02:44:33 PM »

Mike - The only thing I can come up with is that it was a BIG movie with BIG special FX for it's time, great cinematography.  I'll see your "insufferable" and raise with "excruciating", ROF.
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« Reply #16 on: September 03, 2017, 07:23:26 PM »

Mt fave parts    are 1st  scene  with  Superman  (George  Reeves),   and later my  favorite  ubiquitous   character actor   Ward  Bond.   I likewise  saw Streetcar 25 yrs  later, and NEVER  GWTW   in its entirety.

Saw  One Eyed  Jacks--boring & I was so young didn't  know what a one  eyed jack was.
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« Reply #17 on: September 03, 2017, 07:27:50 PM »

Liked Karl Malden in Waterfront, Baby Doll (condemned by the Legion of Decency), Fear Strikes Out and Patton.
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« Reply #18 on: September 09, 2017, 03:46:41 PM »

Just watched episode 1 of "The Deuce"  ..pretty dark...  but.. I guess that's the way it was.
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« Reply #19 on: September 09, 2017, 04:16:38 PM »

43 - Pitch black, for sure!
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« Reply #20 on: September 10, 2017, 12:51:27 PM »

Just saw an article about The Deuce (the show). Never knew the Times Square area was called that back in the day. I do remember Tad's steaks for $1.19 though. They were terrible and burnt to a crisp but my dad could never refuse a bargain and I could never refuse one of his not so common splurges, like a jello at The Automat if I promised to also drink a whole glass of milk (jello and milk - yuk).   
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« Reply #21 on: September 10, 2017, 02:38:55 PM »

Mike - It's only been called The Deuce for about 20 years and of course Time Square is still in use.  I was a Flaming Embers girls, MUCH better than Tad's and just as cheap.  As a child my automat favorite was peanut butter on raisin bread.  I still love milk, but try to keep away from it for the most part.  I hung in Romeo's for pizza.  The  people looked out for me an the juke box was insane Grin
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« Reply #22 on: September 10, 2017, 04:30:52 PM »

Just saw an article about The Deuce (the show). Never knew the Times Square area was called that back in the day. I do remember Tad's steaks for $1.19 though. They were terrible and burnt to a crisp but my dad could never refuse a bargain and I could never refuse one of his not so common splurges, like a jello at The Automat if I promised to also drink a whole glass of milk (jello and milk - yuk).   

I liked the pie at the Automat.
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« Reply #23 on: September 10, 2017, 11:59:09 PM »

Shandy--liked the Deuce.   Every city has   that nasty, perverse  "   sick underbelly."  Actually,   a bit of  a downer.  But loved the scenery.

Several points--1--No whore  would take a check.  LOL
2-  Pretty  weak on  the NYC  accents.
3-In  1971  one of   the  characters  called it the Deuce.
4-Never heard  the  expression   "across  the  river"  to refer to Manhattan.
5--Police   cars  were  lite blue/white   as  I recall  in 71.
6.--(Tug)  McGraw   did NOT  start  for the  METS  in 1971.
7-SawTwin  Towers--were  they  finished  by 71?

Amazing  how were  able  to  get  the  street  scenes so  70s.

Feel  better  now with  all the nits picked. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin



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« Reply #24 on: September 11, 2017, 05:06:40 AM »

doc - Rave review!  I had no intention of watching, but now you sealed the deal.  I was just there about 5 hours ago.  Don't know what to make of it.  I pretended to be a tourist by saying "Good Evening" to about 5 cops that were standing around.  I didn't wait for a response Smiley
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« Reply #25 on: September 11, 2017, 01:53:57 PM »

I seem to remember police cars being dark green and black before the conversion tot white and blue. Late 60's conversion? The change always bothered me - for reasons unknown.

At about 15-16, when finding myself in Manhattan with spare time, I used to love to stand outside the open doors of someplace called the Metropole Club (or something like that) and watch the "dancers" jiggle. I'm guessing that was in or near TS.   
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« Reply #26 on: September 11, 2017, 08:47:37 PM »

Mike - Right, they were called "black and whites", but there was dark green in them, too.   Right again about the Metropole.  An old hooker, Broadway Rose, use to hang in front of it and men would pay her NOT to do anything to them, lol.  I saw Gene Krupa there in the "lounge" when I was 12.  Bar with hot and cold running hookers to the left, "lounge" to the right up a rickety staircase with rickety tables.  Krupa, who was supposed to be strung out and all washed up, stunned me with his craft.  One of my favorite memories in what I thought was a night club but turned into a dump.  I still want to kill his manger even if he's dead Grin
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« Reply #27 on: September 12, 2017, 10:17:54 PM »

Remember  lloyd  price  at Metropole  a lot.   When i  left  NYC  in 71--police  cars  were  definitely  lite blue/white.

Would  wise guy  gambling  $$  collectors  give  guys a break?   Besides  of a leg. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #28 on: September 13, 2017, 11:28:17 AM »

doc - I thought you lived on the Guyland, don't they have different cars there from us?
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« Reply #29 on: September 13, 2017, 11:05:59 PM »

http://www.policecarwebsite.net/fc/ny/nypd/nypd1970.html
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