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bklynmike101
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« on: June 21, 2019, 05:06:56 PM »

Phil Regan, aka "The Vulture" has been named the new pitching coach of my beloved but forlorn New York Mets. Regan, known among other things for having been the "closer" for the likes of Sandy Koufax, is now a robust 82 years of age.

I sure didn't see that coming! 
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« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2019, 07:12:36 PM »

So, Dave Eiland is the Mets scapegoat of the moment. Gotta blame somebody for the unexpected slow start. I know deGrom and Eiland seemed to be on the same wavelength, so I guess I'm surprised.
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« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2019, 11:37:29 PM »

W/O  checking  also think he got alot of wins--tied in 8th--LA wins in 9th. Also  fed  off  Drysdale & Osteen.Podres?
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« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2019, 12:57:45 PM »

W/O checking, you'er right. I believe he won 16 one year in relief with the Dodgers. Still, he had a good ERA and had some very strong seasons as a reliever. reminded of Elroy Face's 18 and 1 season for Pittsburgh in 1960 (I think).

I wonder if he's the oldest pitching coach ever to be newly appointed in MLB. The Angles had Jimmy Reese for many years into his  90's but he was as much a mascot as anything else in later years though he did serve a fungo hitting coach.
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« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2019, 09:21:53 PM »

Think   Face  18=1 was  1958.   


reese was better known for  Ruths  roommate--Jewish too,interestingly.
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« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2019, 11:35:29 AM »

Just to set the record straight (looked it up) Face was 18-1 2.70 ERA in '59, 10-8 2.90 ERA in '60. Pitched well also in '58 - 5-2 2.89 ERA. Later became a house painter.

I had no idea Reese was Jewish (last name was really Solomon), but I do recommend the recently released Moe Berg documentary.   
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« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2019, 01:03:29 PM »

Roy threw that wicked Forkball. That was the pitch that "made" his career.

Anyone recall other pitchers who used the Forkball as their primary "out" pitch? All I can think of are Gaylord Perry, Dave Stewart and Lindy McDaniel. 

How about the Screwball? Christy Mathewson and Carl Hubbell of course. Mike Cuellar had a great one. Mike Marshall. Fernando Valenzuela.

Best Curveball you ever saw? My top two are Sandy Koufax and Frank Tanana. Followed by Bert Blyleven, Whitey Ford, Catfish Hunter, Clayton Kershaw and Camilo Pascual.
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« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2019, 01:08:02 PM »

Bruce  Sutter?  BTW, Reese  was  a great  fungo hitter-could  hit pop  ups  to the catcher! 
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« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2019, 07:55:23 PM »

Bruce  Sutter?  BTW, Reese  was  a great  fungo hitter-could  hit pop  ups  to the catcher! 

Think Sutter's pitch was the Split-Finger Fastball. But, I'd say the Split Finger could be seen as just a more modern term for a Forkball. Slightly different grip/action but pretty close to being the same pitch I think.
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