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« on: February 01, 2021, 08:24:37 PM »

1. The 1959 AL batting champ.

2.a. Who threw the only home game no-hitter for the Tigers after 1912?
2.b. Who hit a HR in the bottom of the 9th to secure a 1-0 Tiger victory in this no-hit game?
 
3. What Tiger won a batting title with a .361 and never hit over .282 in 12 other seasons?

4. Denny McLain won 31 games in '68. Who was the last previous 30 game winner in MLB (not a Tiger!)?

5. Who hit the most lifetime HRs as a Tiger?

6. First Black player on the Tigers? A DR native. Think it was 1958 he debuted.

7. Who drove Mickey Cochrane in, with 2 outs in the bottom of the 9th, Game 7 of the 1935 WS, to win the Series for Detroit?

8, How many MVP awards did Ty Cobb win?

9. What year did Briggs Stadium become Tiger Stadium?

10. First Tiger to win the Rookie of the Year Award?

11. First Tiger pitcher to have his number retired?

12. Starting 2B in 1961/62/63. Started all 162 games in 1961. Led the AL in Triples and Strikeouts. Career .250 hitter.
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« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2021, 10:06:40 PM »

There's an opening for other posters to answer several questions on this quiz, as a few refer to events that happened post 1965, and also, that I guessed on a few that may be incorrect.
1. The 1959 AL batting champ.

2.a. Who threw the only home game no-hitter for the Tigers after 1912?
2.b. Who hit a HR in the bottom of the 9th to secure a 1-0 Tiger victory in this no-hit game?
 
3. What Tiger won a batting title with a .361 and never hit over .282 in 12 other seasons?

4. Denny McLain won 31 games in '68. Who was the last previous 30 game winner in MLB (not a Tiger!)?

5. Who hit the most lifetime HRs as a Tiger?

6. First Black player on the Tigers? A DR native. Think it was 1958 he debuted.

7. Who drove Mickey Cochrane in, with 2 outs in the bottom of the 9th, Game 7 of the 1935 WS, to win the Series for Detroit?

8, How many MVP awards did Ty Cobb win?

9. What year did Briggs Stadium become Tiger Stadium?

10. First Tiger to win the Rookie of the Year Award?

11. First Tiger pitcher to have his number retired?

12. Starting 2B in 1961/62/63. Started all 162 games in 1961. Led the AL in Triples and Strikeouts. Career .250 hitter.

1) Harvey Kuenn .353

2a) Must have happened after I stopped following baseball - no idea, and I'll guess that I'nve probably never ever heard nor seen either player's name.
2b)

3) Norm Cash

4) Dizzy Dean Cards in 1930?

5) Al Kaline - 399  I have no idea about any Tiger HR hitters after him..  Someone might have passed him.

6) first one I can remember is Ozzie Virgil - traded by The Giants to The Tigers in 1958 - HE was from The DR

7) Goose Goslin (one of my favourite St. Louis Browns)

Cool During Cobb's career MLB only had the special Chalmers award for a few years in the early 1910s, if I remember correctly, until the permanent MVP award started in The mid 1920s.  So, I doubt that Cobb had the chance to wind more than a small handful (as that was all that were awarded to ANYONE).  So, I'll guess just 2 times.

9) I don't know, because it was ALWAYS  Briggs Stadium to me.  I think it changed after 1965 (the last year I was paying any attention to The AL.

10) Harvey Kuenn?

11) Hal Newhouser?

12) Jake Wood
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« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2021, 08:00:32 AM »

Robb,

Good job!

#2a and 2.b  - This no-hitter and late game HR heroics happened in your wheelhouse years, in this case 1952.

#9. Still looking for the year of the stadium name change. You have the right decade. I thought it had happened in the '50s.

#8. Cobb won the MVP (Chalmers Award) one time, in 1911. Wonder what happened in 1909 when Cobb won the Triple Crown? My guess is they didn't have such an award in 1909.
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« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2021, 02:02:57 PM »

Robb,

Good job!

#2a and 2.b  - This no-hitter and late game HR heroics happened in your wheelhouse years, in this case 1952.

#9. Still looking for the year of the stadium name change. You have the right decade. I thought it had happened in the '50s.

#8. Cobb won the MVP (Chalmers Award) one time, in 1911. Wonder what happened in 1909 when Cobb won the Triple Crown? My guess is they didn't have such an award in 1909.

2) Mentioning 1952 as the year, reminded me that Virgil Trucks (another of my favourite Brownies) pitched TWO no-hitters in 1952.  I don't remember the HR hitter, from having looked at the box score in the newspaper, because our Winnipeg newspapers didn't print box scores of US MLB in 1952.  And 1952 was the terrible year for The Tigers, after their great 1950 team started to show their age, and fall apart.  They finished last, even way-yyyy behind the hapless Browns.  I'll take a wild guess at it:  It had to be either Vic Wertz, before he was traded to The Browns, or Walt Dropo, after he was traded to The Tigers from The Red Sox.  I'll go with Dropo.  Johnny Groth was the only Tiger regular, who played for them all year.  And even he was traded to The Browns before the 1953 season.  But Dropo and Wertz were the only real HR hitters, other than Hoot Evers(traded away early), and Don Lenhardt (traded to The Tigers from The Browns, late in the season.  But, I'll stick with Dropo as a wild guess. 

And you are correct about 1909 and the MVP award.  There was no MLB MVP award in 1909.  But, maybe Hans Wagner would have won it over Cobb, anyway.  Wagner was a great hitter in a pitcher's park, and he was a great fielder as well, in a position that was more valuable to his team than an outfielder.  I think that Wagner was probably more valuable to his team than Cobb EVERY year during both their primes.
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« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2021, 02:12:46 PM »

WEN DID nAVIn BECOME bRIGGS?
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« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2021, 02:34:55 PM »

WEN DID nAVIn BECOME bRIGGS?
The year Walter Briggs remodeled the stadium.  I would guess around the middle of the 1930s, when The Tigers were winning their 1934 and 1935 pennants.  Maybe the renovations were funded by extra money from their pennant-winning seasons?  So, that probably occurred in 1935 or 1936.  The Depression was at its worst in 1933.  And The US economy started to pull out in 1936.  So, I will guess 1936.
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« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2021, 05:23:13 PM »

Robb,

It was Virgil Trucks. Two no-hitters in a season when he went 5-19! I'm going on memory on who hit the game winning solo HR. I'm 95% sure it was Vic Wertz.  That 1-0 no-hitter at Briggs was against the Senators. Bob Porterfield pitched a Complete Game 4 hitter for Washington. Porterfield was really a fine pitcher.

The second 1952 no-hitter - at Yankee Stadium - was also a 1-0 win.

Briggs became Tiger Stadium in 1961. Later than I thought. I once drove by it in the late 70s. A big gray edifice. Unfortunately, I never got to see a game there.

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« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2021, 05:57:48 PM »

Robb,

It was Virgil Trucks. Two no-hitters in a season when he went 5-19! I'm going on memory on who hit the game winning solo HR. I'm 95% sure it was Vic Wertz.  That 1-0 no-hitter at Briggs was against the Senators. Bob Porterfield pitched a Complete Game 4 hitter for Washington. Porterfield was really a fine pitcher.

The second 1952 no-hitter - at Yankee Stadium - was also a 1-0 win.

Briggs became Tiger Stadium in 1961. Later than I thought. I once drove by it in the late 70s. A big gray edifice. Unfortunately, I never got to see a game there.
Wertz was my 2nd choice, and now that I think about it, I seem to remember him connected with an noteworthy HR that season - and it couldn't have been an important HR given Detroit's place in the standings.  His trade to The Browns came late in the year (mid August) because it took a long time for The Browns to finally agree to give up their Ace, Ned Garver.
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« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2021, 01:36:50 PM »

Joe- Bob  Porterfield is from Farmingdale.
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« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2021, 08:12:44 PM »

New question: What Tiger hit four home runs in four successive official at-bats in a Sunday double-header against the New York Yankees at Briggs Stadium on May 3, 1959. One in Game 1 (his last AB, off Larsen). 3 HRs in Game 2 (off Duke Maas, Johnny Kucks, and Zach Monroe). A fine defensive OF and clutch hitter. Deserved more accolades than he got while playing.

Doc, Didn't know Porterfield was a fellow Long Islander. A VERY good pitcher for the godawful Senators.
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« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2021, 10:59:02 PM »

PawPaw
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« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2021, 11:29:44 PM »

New question: What Tiger hit four home runs in four successive official at-bats in a Sunday double-header against the New York Yankees at Briggs Stadium on May 3, 1959. One in Game 1 (his last AB, off Larsen). 3 HRs in Game 2 (off Duke Maas, Johnny Kucks, and Zach Monroe). A fine defensive OF and clutch hitter. Deserved more accolades than he got while playing.

Doc, Didn't know Porterfield was a fellow Long Islander. A VERY good pitcher for the godawful Senators.
Charlie Maxwell.  It was mentioned in the cartoon note on one of his Topps cards (1960? or 1961).  I loved those comic cartoons.  That's how I found out that one of my favourite singers, Modern, Dig, and Specialty Records', and Crowns' lead singer, Arthur Lee May, was the same guy as one of my favourite baseball players, Lee Maye!  Before that, I just thought the "e" at the end of Arthur's name on a few of his records was a misprint (as most of them didn't have it), and they were two different people, with a similar name.  I loved the cartoon of Sam Jethroe as a burglar on his 1953 Topps card.  Many of those cartoons were quite clever.  And now that I'm studying the newly-researched crediting for formerly uncredited comic book art, I discovered that two of the most famous 1940s animators and comic book artists also drew the "Bazooka Joe" comics that came with Bazooka Gum, and the Topps informational cartoons on their baseball cards were drawn by a couple of very famous 1940s and 1950s comic book artists.
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« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2021, 02:17:51 AM »

Robb-Paw  Paw was Maxwell's  nick name. I gave a trivia answer.
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« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2021, 07:59:12 AM »

Doc & Robb,

Yep. Charlie Maxwell indeed!

In the years he was really good (the mid to late 50s), he was VERY good. Like Bill Skowron, underrated and in a superstar's shadow (Kaline, in Charlie's case).

Doc, I knew that Paw Paw nickname. From where he was from in Michigan I believe. He was also called "Sunday Charlie" and the "Sabbath Smasher" due to the predilection for shine in Sunday games.

Colavito replaced him in LF in the early 60s. 

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« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2021, 06:45:02 PM »

I always liked Paw Paw despite his destroying my NYY. Hit 31 HR in '59. Still a dangerous PH into the early 60's. He's 93 now. 
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« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2021, 06:53:34 PM »

I always liked Paw Paw despite his destroying my NYY. Hit 31 HR in '59. Still a dangerous PH into the early 60's. He's 93 now. 
Yeah, him and Frank Lary! (Although, Mike,weren't you the poster who said he saw Lary vs NYY at the Stadium and that he was knocked out early?
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« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2021, 01:12:11 AM »

I always liked Paw Paw despite his destroying my NYY. Hit 31 HR in '59. Still a dangerous PH into the early 60's. He's 93 now. 
Yeah, him and Frank Lary! (Although, Mike,weren't you the poster who said he saw Lary vs NYY at the Stadium and that he was knocked out early?

The Yankee Killer! 
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« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2021, 02:31:47 PM »

I always liked Paw Paw despite his destroying my NYY. Hit 31 HR in '59. Still a dangerous PH into the early 60's. He's 93 now.  
Yeah, him and Frank Lary! (Although, Mike,weren't you the poster who said he saw Lary vs NYY at the Stadium and that he was knocked out early?

The Yankee Killer!  
Lary was 27-10 vs NYY from 1955-61. Not bad, considering NYY dominance (6 pennants). 5-1 in 1956, 7-1 in 1957. Only other player to beat Yanks 7x in one season was Black Sox pitcher, Ed Cicotte. Those last tidbits from Wiki.
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« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2021, 03:19:29 AM »

Son was Al Cicotte- Yankee pitcher-late 50s I recall.
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« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2021, 08:23:47 AM »

Son was Al Cicotte- Yankee pitcher-late 50s I recall.
Doc, Looked him up. He was Eddie's great-nephew. Was with Yanks only in '57. Went 2-2. Won 10 games in his career, split among 4-5 teams.
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« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2021, 01:39:47 PM »

Cicotte II - light yellow border on '60 Topps card. Hung around  MLB for a long time - brief stints with many teams on the AAA/MLB shuttle. Today, with 30+ teams, he'd be a starter for non-competitive teams. I figure him to be 7-12 with an ERA of 4.93  Grin

Joe, Yes 'twas I. My very first live game was billed as the Yankee Killer (Lary) vs Ford and both got knocked out early. Truly an exceptional game though with Yanks coming from behind down 6-4 with 2 out and no one on in the bottom of the 9th to win 7-6 - in regulation 9 innings. 1960. 
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« Reply #21 on: February 14, 2021, 12:06:09 AM »

re Ozzie Virgil- Jesus Alou told me he was1st DR in MLB.
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« Reply #22 on: February 14, 2021, 07:54:21 AM »

re Ozzie Virgil- Jesus Alou told me he was1st DR in MLB.
Ozzie was born in the DR, started his first MLB game in Sep 56 for the NY Giants at 3B.

Jesus Alou also debuted for the Giants and was from the DR. But that was Sep 63. Maybe there is some "technicality" that Alou is aware of with Virgil, e.g., born in the DR but grew up elsewhere?? I don't know.
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« Reply #23 on: February 15, 2021, 10:48:11 AM »

It was my understanding   Virgil also grew up & played in  DR. Because of the Cuba restrictions-all the MLB have big well kept spring trarining type sites in DR.Talked with a scout who found Cano & ?? another star.forget who. He was complaining that too many kids quit school before  7th grade in  hopes of MLB careers. Most  dont make it and then what he said,--with no English or education.


Amazing to see about 10   14-15yr old  catchers practicing   blocking wild pitches at 8AM!
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