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« Reply #90 on: February 12, 2021, 01:10:52 AM »

Tim McCarver too. Minnie Minoso played in 5 decades, albeit with a little bit of publicity hooey thrown in.
Both he and Satchell Paige probably played 5 FULL decades in organised Baseball!   Cheesy
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« Reply #91 on: February 12, 2021, 02:27:09 PM »

I was surprised to see that, in 1961, Minnie Minoso was the highest paid CWS player. He made $50K; Fox was paid $47K; Aparicio made $28,500.

Was also surprised to that in 1960, Hank Aaron had a salary of $45K; Eddie Mathews made $65K.

Cubs: In 1961, Ernie Banks made $57,500

NYY: In 1961, Mantle made $75,000; Berra, $57,500, E. Howard, $45K, Maris, $42,000, Whitey Ford, $36,000.  Surprised by Elston's salary, relative to others. And, how Whitey was underpaid? Was that true of pitchers then? Don't know.

Dodgers in '61: Hodges, $39,000; Snider, $38K, Moon, $36,000; Drysdale, $28,500, Wills, $32,000, Koufax, $18,500

Giants in '61 : Mays made $75,000
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« Reply #92 on: February 13, 2021, 03:22:41 AM »

Hodges was on 61 Dodgers?  Thot Larker,later Fairly played 1b.
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« Reply #93 on: February 13, 2021, 08:20:01 AM »

Hodges was on 61 Dodgers?  Thot Larker,later Fairly played 1b.
Gil's last year with LA was 1961. He played in 109 games, hit .242 with 8 HR. Larker split time with Gil, hit .270 with 5 HR. Did Fairly play the OF that season?
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« Reply #94 on: February 24, 2021, 09:56:16 AM »

What AL team had Gold Glove-voted performers at 2B, SS, 3B and CF in the same season in the 1960s, and name the players?

I'll give you the Gold Glove players at the other positions to maybe help you narrow down the year.

1B - Joe Pepitone
OF - Mickey Stanley
OF - Carl Yastrzemski
C- Bill Freehan
P - Jim Kaat
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« Reply #95 on: February 25, 2021, 12:23:28 AM »

Boyer,Kubek,Richardson, Pep& mantle
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« Reply #96 on: February 25, 2021, 07:52:13 AM »

Sorry, Doc.  Incorrect.
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« Reply #97 on: February 25, 2021, 11:55:04 AM »

Boyer,Kubek,Richardson, Pep& mantle
Pepitone was listed as one of the OTHER positions, so he can't be one of them, and so, I assume that it wasn't The Yankees.  I never cared about fielding awards, so I have no idea.  The White Sox usually had good fielding.  But, I haven't any idea which year and which players.
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« Reply #98 on: February 25, 2021, 12:13:35 PM »

I think it's a great question. But I have no idea what the answer is. Just my two cents of drivel.
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« Reply #99 on: February 25, 2021, 01:17:57 PM »

Yes, I wouldn't have listed Pepitone if it were the Yanks.

As for the team, think of a team that was dominant in the AL between 1966-71 (three WS appearances). Then, think of their 3B, middle infielders, and CF. The SS was another one of those New Englanders (NH, in this case) whose forebears migrated from Quebec.
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« Reply #100 on: February 25, 2021, 02:37:30 PM »

Yes, I wouldn't have listed Pepitone if it were the Yanks.

As for the team, think of a team that was dominant in the AL between 1966-71 (three WS appearances). Then, think of their 3B, middle infielders, and CF. The SS was another one of those New Englanders (NH, in this case) whose forebears migrated from Quebec.
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That seems like it must be The Orioles.

2B Davey Johnson
3B Brooks Robinson
SS Mark Belanger
CF Paul Blair

I'd guess 1969, 1968, or 1967, but have no idea, which.
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« Reply #101 on: February 25, 2021, 02:47:39 PM »

Yes, I wouldn't have listed Pepitone if it were the Yanks.

As for the team, think of a team that was dominant in the AL between 1966-71 (three WS appearances). Then, think of their 3B, middle infielders, and CF. The SS was another one of those New Englanders (NH, in this case) whose forebears migrated from Quebec.
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That seems like it must be The Orioles.

2B Davey Johnson
3B Brooks Robinson
SS Mark Belanger
CF Paul Blair

I'd guess 1969, 1968, or 1967, but have no idea, which.

Yes! Orioles in 1969. Belanger, and especially Brooks Robby and Paul Blair in Center, were truly great glove men. I always saw Davey Johnson as an "offensive" 2B, so was surprised he won a Gold Glove. Not in the same defensive tier as the other three, in my opinion. Orioles won the WS in '66, lost it '69 and 71.
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« Reply #102 on: February 25, 2021, 10:56:03 PM »

Yes, I wouldn't have listed Pepitone if it were the Yanks.

As for the team, think of a team that was dominant in the AL between 1966-71 (three WS appearances). Then, think of their 3B, middle infielders, and CF. The SS was another one of those New Englanders (NH, in this case) whose forebears migrated from Quebec.
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That seems like it must be The Orioles.

2B Davey Johnson
3B Brooks Robinson
SS Mark Belanger
CF Paul Blair

I'd guess 1969, 1968, or 1967, but have no idea, which.

Yes! Orioles in 1969. Belanger, and especially Brooks Robby and Paul Blair in Center, were truly great glove men. I always saw Davey Johnson as an "offensive" 2B, so was surprised he won a Gold Glove. Not in the same defensive tier as the other three, in my opinion. Orioles won the WS in '66, lost it '69 and 71.

Good!  That was my first choice.  I really didn't keep track (pay attention) to the giving of defensive awards in Baseball.  (I did in hockey and football).  Actually, defence WAS really important in baseball.  Just note the difference in batting average against, ERA, runs per 9 in., walks, etc. for ex-Browns and Athletics who later played for The Yankees (Don Larson, Bob Turley, Art Ditmar, etc.), or the difference between Virgil Trucks from The Tigers to The Browns and then to The White Sox.  Did they get tips from The Yankees', Tigers' and White Sox's Aces and pitching coaches?  Did they suddenly become hard workers in practice when they were on a team that had a good chance of winning?   Perhaps, but much more important were the great defensive players with greater ranges, making catches the weak team's slow, clumsy outfielders wouldn't, sweeping yp almost all grounders hit by opposing lineups, many of which would bounce through for hits, and the weak fielders would make errors that would help keep opponents' runners on base more, and make these control pitchers need to pitch more carefully, leading to more walks, and so, yet more baserunners.  So, except for the greatest power pitchers like Koufax, Gibson, Feller, score before his injury, and a few others, most pitchers benefitted a LOT from having a good defensive team behind them, just as goaltenders in hockey have their goals against stats benefit from playing behind a better defence.
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